Post by Bèr Kessels Post by Karoly Negyesi
Let's consider this as a new rule: before writing to devel during the code
freeze, you should link to an issue followup where you actually added
something. Consider this as a karma.
Lets not consider this as a rule =) Great people have added great stuff to
Drupal without writing a single line of PHP, without commenting to a single
issue. The moment we are going to set rules for people to discuss stuff,
based on metrics such as committed patches, we have killed a
community. Isn't it "free as in freedom"?
If people discuss stuff on the mailinglist, such a discussion
proves there is
a certain itch. Wether or not that is your personal itch should not matter.
Get yourself a mailreader that can ignore threads if it really
but please do not try to kill a discussion just because you don't like it, or
because in your vision there are more important matters.
No need to make karma explicit. Through our conversations and
cooperation, we build trust and respect. For each of you, my brain
keeps a karma-score that is derived from our interactions. I bet you
a beer that your brain does the same. :)
It's actually quite simple: "you get karma when you accomplish
things". It doesn't get more complex than that yet people fail to
see it. You can accomplish things through talk, through writing or
What Karoly meant to say is that there are quite a few people that
like to debate technical stuff without accomplishing technical
things. It doesn't buy them karma -- quite the opposite.
But most of all, Karoly meant to say that we need to focus more on
getting Drupal 5 out, and that we could use more people working the
bug tracker. The people that do spend a lot of time in the issue
tracker would love to help plan the future, and work on exciting new
things. For them, it's frustrating to see other people debate about
the future without being concerned about the current. Why? Because
all the talk is not likely to "accomplish" anything unless we get
Drupal 5 out first.
At this point in the release schedule, technical talk doesn't buy you
much karma. So thank god my e-mail client can kill threads. Oh, and
sorry for being meta. Hopefully I didn't loose too much karma with
this mail. I should have known better.
Anyway, I hope I clarified Karoly's words for you.
Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/